Submitted Jan 5, 2011 9:22 AM
Very informative article, especially the last five points to consider - thank you. To the previous poster Nate E. - pls point me to your blog, would love to read it.
Submitted Jan 5, 2011 9:54 AM
I knew I wanted to open my own vintage clothing boutique for a few years. While it was very difficult and required a lot of discipline, I saved up the money for the build out of the store, fixtures and inventory and a substantial amount for operating costs "just in case". I knew I wanted to do this all out of pocket with no debt and I am glad I did.
We have only been open for a few months now, but we are debt free and it does make it much easier. We have had a successful first few months (THANKFULLY) and have not had to dip into reserve funds. I think about this every day though.... would we be in the same situation if we had borrowed money. I don't know, but I do I know I would be more worried about the unknown.
Anyway, thanks for the article. Great reading!
Submitted Jan 5, 2011 10:15 AM
I like the concept!
I own a retail store with a very high inventory value. I was speaking to my accountant about working towards a debt free business. I agree the risk would be much lower and sleeping at night a lot easier. I am very close to debt free personally and it feels great. When it comes to my business though, my accountant's only concern was, down the road when I want to sell the business the inventory is worth less when it's paid for verses when you finance it from a leverage stand point. The buyer would look at this as a weakness and offer less for the stock portion of the business purchase. Also, working towards making the business debt free, the business would no doubt have to pay higher income tax as you would be profiting higher instead of paying yourself a bonus for a good year, for example.
Regardless of the potential shortcomings I plan to work towards the debt free aproach and found this article inspiring. Thanks!
Submitted Jan 5, 2011 10:55 AM
A friend of mine ran a business completely on a cash basis. He owed no one, and no one owed him. He ran that business successfully for 20 years like that, until he had a fire. He went to a bank for a loan to rebuild. He couldn't find a single bank that would talk to him. Maybe this is a story about having proper insurance. But I think it's important to consider that a business with no debt has no credit. I think, as with most things in life, the best plan is a balance. Have the cash and assets to support the debt you take on, tie the life of the debt to the life of the asset it was used to purchase, and never overextend. If you finance your cash flow, you need to pay it off in full every cycle. If you finance a vehicle that you're going to keep for 3 years, get a 3 year loan, not a 5 year loan. One successful strategy that has worked for us is to put 50% down on assets and finance 50%. That way, after your first payment, you own more than you owe.
Submitted Jan 5, 2011 11:04 AM
I have been running an online store debt free for nearly 2 years now. Given the nature of my products, I want to open a brick & mortar retail store and am struggling to find ways to do this in a reasonable amount of time without debt.
Submitted Jan 5, 2011 12:17 PM
Fabulous article I will be sharing with others.
One other interesting personal observation about debt in a business is the owners I know who run debt free spend less on salaries, furniture, space, etc. because they are keenly aware the cash is leaving their grasp. The indebted owners I've met typically spend more on nice spaces, pretty furniture, super-duper computers, etc because they have the money to spend and it's all just a "monthly payment" anyway. Of course profit minded owners recognize that both the interest paid and the more expensive purchases deprive the owners of profits!
Submitted Jan 5, 2011 12:51 PM
Running a debt free organization is key in our strategic objective and something I have never regretted. Debt can be lever that give you the advantage or if your on wrong side of the fulcrum is can be what catapults you into bankruptcy. A portion of the profits always go towards our cash reserve. As our suppliers were struggling we were able to help them with fast cash and grab inventory for 60% off.
Having the illusion of liquidity through debt hides the rocks under the water. Once the liquidity dries up your left with hug obstacles that should have been seen and addressed in the good times.
Submitted Jan 5, 2011 1:06 PM
As a business owner I tend to agree with Bill O., credit is for when/if you need it and hopefully not because you have no other choice. It's true there is more risk with debt but using other people's money to finance your business can also reduce your own personal risk and the leverage can allow you to explore opportunities that might not be within reach otherwise. We have debt but we manage it very actively and make it work for us by building credit, and in that way it can be a powerful business tool. Unfortunately, it is credit (not cash) that makes the finance world go round.
Submitted Jan 5, 2011 3:10 PM
What about approaching this issue as a C corp. that can sell stock to raise funds? I'd like to learn more about that instead of using creditors. It seems to me creditors only lend to those who qualify so well, that they don't really need money.
Whereas entrepreneurs can sell ideas and processes as well as products. Seems worth knowing something about, anyway.
Submitted Jan 5, 2011 6:32 PM
Very insightful article. We have debt and i made a conscious decision in Dec 2010 to become Debt free.
I believe the most practical way to do this is by developing a CASH RESERVE or savings from the business.
Just completed my Audit and the Finance costs were though the roof.
I like what Mr. Lee Kashing recommends if you have to borrow get the amount you want to borrow put it in an Interest bearing Instrument then borrow the equivalent amount, you repay the money while in the meantime you make Income on the Instrument.
Hope that is helpful,
Submitted Jan 5, 2011 8:40 PM
Your article was really inspiring. Is very good thing to run a business debt free. But what I think is you need to balance the need to grow fast and be free of debt. If you limit your growth to what you are able to finance then your growth will be limited and may take you long to reach. I think as Bill O said the best is to balance. without over doing it. i see this days business who are so much leveraged that they carry 2 or even more times of their assets. the other side of the coin is it may take you 20 or 30 years if you say you will finance from your own cash flow. Unless you are in very niche business and have no competition and a lot of customers.
Submitted Jan 5, 2011 9:37 PM
Bill O's (Point 5 above) is refreshing. Never thought that one ought to pay at least 50% so that everytime you pay the installment the properties are really "owned" by you.
To combine both loan and own resources are also a good idea. In conclusion, one must not over-geared.
Submitted Jan 5, 2011 10:19 PM
Submitted Jan 5, 2011 10:49 PM
Excellent article and comments.
Cash is King - there is no doubt about that. My brother and I have financed our software company's growth entirely without debt with one exception. We financed the purchase of an office condo about 10 years into the business as an asset of a second company we setup and lease it back to ourselves. Now this asset becomes part of our retirement portfolio and will be paid off by the time we retire (or sooner). I think one should consider real estate debt in a slightly different way because this asset appreciates and can generate revenue on its own.
A question we often ask ourselves is how much cash reserves should we have on hand? I have heard 1 year worth but for us I think that is excessive and is up for grabs should you ever get sued. And 1 year worth of what? What business all of a sudden losses 100% of its sales where the reserves would have to cover 100% of the expenses? Also, if you were in a downturn, you would most likely reduce your expenses so that would extend the reserves beyond a year...and this year’s expenses are really not relevant - should you base it on the past years expenses plus maybe 10%?
We currently carry 4 months reserves based on the average monthly expense of the last six month +10%. If we dip below that, the owners don't get a bonus until the reserves get above 4 months again.
Then, what do you do with the reserves? Seems foolish to leave them in the bank earning a paltry 1/4 of a percent. We keep 1/3 in stocks and mutual funds that we manage ourselves, and 2/3 in a mixture of operating cash and bond mutual funds that earn about 3.3%.
We do use credit cards but religiously pay them off every month. And we get paid for using them - all our cards are cash rebate cards which amounts to a couple thousand dollars per year in checks the credit card company writes to us as a nice little bonus.
Submitted Jan 6, 2011 11:25 AM
I have never wanted to be a slave, and that is why i have operated debt free all along but it has taken me many years.
Submitted Jan 10, 2011 8:40 PM
Great Article! Very informative and timely. As soon as I read your article, I completd my company's operating budget. I was in the middle of a tough decision and as soon as i completed the budget (the decision making tool), I was able to make an informed decision without any hesitants and it helped remove the emotions from the decision making process. Thank you for a timely article. The last five point are also helpful.
Submitted Jan 11, 2011 1:41 AM
This comes at a good moment for me. Yes it sure is taking a while to build my business but taking loans never seemed like a good idea either. So it's affirming to know dept-free is a viable way to go. Thank you.
Submitted Jan 16, 2011 5:47 PM
This is a great article! With todays global recession, having little to no debt is a huge advantage over your competition.
Over the past several months, myself and 3 other business partners have been creating, researching, and discussing how to start a business debt free. Check out our website: www.FOURwardThought.com. We hope that someday, it can be a great sounding board for debt free companies. We currently have 2-3 other businesses that we are starting debt free, in order to prove that debt free start-up can be done successfully.
Submitted Feb 2, 2011 4:06 PM
Fantastic article. So Wise, Thank you E-Myth World-wide and God bless you!
Submitted Feb 4, 2011 4:41 AM
Beautiful write up, Its a business model that gives you all the peace of mind especially when things go wrong. Its not bad to borrow when you are sure of the calculated risk. BUT what if it doesnt work according to the calculation?
Submitted Feb 23, 2011 9:12 AM
Putting yourself or your business in unnecessary debt just to build credit isn't a great idea. I used my personal credit once to pay for a business which flopped and I was stuck with not only a huge amount of debt, but also a horrid credit score. I worked diligently toward credit repair and after about a year my score got to acceptable again. So long story short... don't go into debt unless it's absolutely necessary!
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Submitted Mar 17, 2011 1:06 AM
Great article. Nate E., would you guide me to your blog? I'd like to read and join.
Submitted May 12, 2011 6:38 PM
Growing a debt-free business isn’t so easy these days. With merchant fees skyrocketing through the roof, it’s a wonder that any small business could turn a profit on any purchase made with a credit card for under two bucks. Credit card processing fees eat up so much profit that you HAVE to charge the customer a fee to prevent yourself from losing money! Many businesses simply hang up signs saying you can't use a card for a purchase under 10 dollars, but in California, law makers have just deemed that illegal! I surely hope the 12 cent processing fee cap passes through congress!
Submitted Jun 27, 2011 2:28 PM
I agree with you Nancy!
Its all a debt trap to prevent small businesses from succeeding. Not only is it the merchant costs like
but its all the red tape that's involved to the the taxes that bid companies are exempt from. People wonder why there's so much protest going on right now.
Submitted Nov 28, 2011 2:04 PM